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or vice president biden kind of a free pass on the claim that we are out of there in 2014 because that, in fact is not the plan that they are developing in nato now. the plan is to maintain a kind of enduring force, which is going to involve an american counterterrorism force, which will go after the al qaeda. it's going to involve nato advisers, some of whom will have to operate on the tactical level with the afghan troops. if you actually look at the planning, the last american to die in afghanistan will not have died in 2014. they are still going to be fighting an american involvement after that day. >> i also want to say, i can say since i'm no longer in a newspaper and i write an opinionated blog, no, iraq was not worth t. >> why? >> absolutely not. we went to war on false premises. we wasted billions and billions of dollars. enormous amounts. and it's hard to see how the situation has radically improved. we play is a new axis of evil emerging, syria/iraq/pakistan. >> this was an intervention built to create something far more tilted in the direction of western interests? >> it wa
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